Awkward Conversations with Jesus

Sermon for the third Sunday in Lent

John 4:5-42

Human beings are incredibly creative when it comes to avoiding awkward situations.

For example, have you ever been in the grocery store when you suddenly spot someone you know… and you realize you’re not ready to talk to that person today?

Instantly, you become fascinated by the cereal aisle.

You pick up a box and start reading the fiber content like you’re preparing for a medical board exam.

You turn the box over and keep reading… even though you have absolutely no intention of buying that cereal.

At that moment you’re not shopping anymore; you’re hiding behind granola.

Human beings are remarkably good at avoidance.

We avoid awkward conversations.
We avoid difficult people.
We avoid situations that might get uncomfortable.

And sometimes that instinct is harmless, even wise. But sometimes avoidance becomes something deeper.

Sometimes wounds run deep enough that people stop trying to heal them.

Families and friends stop speaking.
Communities quietly segregate themselves into invisible boundaries.
Politics turns into tribal warfare where the goal is no longer understanding but simply defeating the other side.
Religious groups stop listening to one another and start caricaturing each other instead.

Over time, something shifts:
It’s not about anger anymore.
It’s about resignation.

People begin to assume reconciliation is impossible.
At that point, the strategy becomes very simple:
Just walk away.
Go around.
Avoid the difficult conversation.

And that’s exactly what people did in Jesus’ day.

By the first century, Jews and Samaritans had centuries of bad history between them. Political betrayal, religious disrespect, ethnic suspicion, and generations of mutual resentment.

Most Jewish travelers going between Galilee and Jerusalem would go miles out of their way to avoid Samaritan territory altogether. They just went around it.

But John tells us something different about Jesus: He says that Jesus had to go through Samaria.

Now geographically speaking, that wasn’t true.
There were other routes.
Most people took them.

But John says Jesus had to go through Samaria, not because the road required it, but because love did.
The mission of God runs straight through the places that human beings prefer to avoid.
That’s why Jesus walks straight into Samaria and arrives at a place called Jacob’s well.

The time is about noon, the sun is high, and the air is hot.
Jesus is tired from his journey, so he sits down by the well.
And then a Samaritan woman comes to draw water.

Now, if you pause for a moment and imagine that scene, you can almost feel the tension: a Jewish rabbi and a Samaritan woman. Two people from communities that had been avoiding each other for generations.

You might expect confrontation, suspicion, or awkward silence. But Jesus does something surprising: He asks her for a drink.

That’s the opening move. It’s not a sermon or an argument; it’s just a simple request: “Give me a drink.”

What’s remarkable is that Jesus begins the conversation by placing himself in a position of vulnerability.
Instead of approaching her as a teacher, he approaches her as a human being in need.

And that’s the moment when the conversation really gets going: the woman questions Jesus, they discuss theology, they talk about worship, the Messiah, and where God is to be found.

Meanwhile, the disciples show up and look at the whole situation with suspicion, but Jesus stays engaged in the conversation.

The woman eventually goes back to her village and tells people about the encounter.

The villagers are curious enough to come out and meet Jesus. They end up inviting him to stay for two more days, and he does. Two days of conversation, meals, and shared life.

And by the end of that time the villagers say, “We know that this is truly the Savior of the world.”

The people everyone avoided become the first ones to recognize that Jesus’ message is good news for the whole world. And it all began with a tired traveler sitting at a well and asking, “May I have a drink?”

Here’s the heart of what this story shows us:

We often organize our lives around avoiding the places that hurt—but Jesus walks straight into those places, and healing begins when people are willing to sit down together and talk.

That’s the movement of the Gospel. Jesus goes into the place where everyone else goes around. He begins reconciliation, not with power, but with vulnerability.

Now, before we go any further, I want to say something important:
When the Gospel talks about reconciliation, it does not mean that people should remain in situations where they are being harmed.

Jesus teaches forgiveness and healing, but he never asks people to accept abuse or violence as normal.
Sometimes the most faithful thing a person can do is create distance and seek safety.

This is not a story about enduring harm; it’s a story about what happens when God steps into the deep divisions between communities and begins something new.

If we look closely at the way Jesus approaches this encounter, we can see a pattern:
First, Jesus goes where others refuse to go. He refuses to organize his life around avoidance.
Second, he takes the vulnerable seat. Instead of dominating the conversation, he asks for help.
Third, he stays in the uncomfortable conversation. The woman challenges him with a theological argument, and instead of escalating the conflict, Jesus answers in a way that both acknowledges the disagreement and points beyond it.
Finally, Jesus gives reconciliation time: two days in the village.
Healing rarely happens in a single moment; it grows over time.

This leaves us with a question: Where are the “Samarias” in our own lives: the places we’ve learned to walk around, instead of going through?

Maybe they are strained relationships with family members, community divisions that feel too complicated to address, or a group of people we’ve quietly written off because the history feels too difficult to untangle.

Whatever the case may be, the Gospel suggests that healing often begins in a very simple way:
Someone sits down at the well, risks vulnerability, and begins the conversation, not with an argument, but with a moment of shared humanity.

Most travelers in Jesus’ day went around Samaria.
It was easier, safer, and less awkward.
But Jesus walked straight through it.
When he arrived, he didn’t begin with a lecture or a debate.
He sat down and said, “I’m thirsty; may I have a drink?”

Sometimes reconciliation begins with something that small: an honest conversation and a willingness to sit down, instead of tiptoeing around the issue.

Here’s a remarkable modern example:

There is a blues musician, a man of color named Daryl Davis who spent years doing something that most of us would never even consider possible: He sat down and talked with members of the Ku Klux Klan.

Imagine that for a moment: a black man sitting across the table from racists who had spent their lives believing he was inferior.

Most of us would assume those conversations would end in shouting, anger, or worse, but Daryl Davis didn’t begin with arguments; he began with questions.

He would ask them, very calmly, “How can you hate me if you don’t even know me?”
And then he would listen.

They talked about music and life.
Sometimes they would even argue, but he kept showing up.

Over time something remarkable began to happen: one by one, some of his newfound friends began leaving the Klan.

And when they left, many of them gave Daryl Davis their robes. Today he has a closet full of them.
Each robe is a reminder that sometimes the hardest walls between people don’t come down through force or argument; they come down when two people are willing to sit down and have a conversation.

That’s exactly what Jesus does with the Samaritan woman at the well: he walks into a place that everyone else avoids, sits down, and says, “I’m thirsty. May I have a drink?”

Sometimes reconciliation begins with something that small.

Kindred in Christ, most of us will probably never sit down with members of the Ku Klux Klan the way Daryl Davis did, but we might start somewhere closer to home.

We might reach out to a family member or neighbor we’ve quietly stopped talking to. We might listen to someone whose political views make our blood pressure rise. We might sit down with an acquaintance, a coworker, or someone at church and choose curiosity instead of suspicion. We might do this, not to win an argument, but just to begin a conversation.

Today’s Gospel suggests that healing rarely begins with grand gestures.
More often it begins the way that Jesus began it on that day in Samaria:
With someone sitting down and saying something as simple as, “I’m thirsty. May I have a drink?”

The Harvest is Here

St. Photina, "The Enlightened One". Traditional name for the Samaritan woman at the well. Legend has it that she was martyred after spitting in Emperor Nero's face.

Today’s sermon from First Presbyterian, Boonville.

The text is John 4:5-42.

Over the past few decades a lot has been said and written on the topic of church growth in North America.  Most sources agree that there has been a tremendous decline in membership for older, mainline congregations like ours.  Many popular sources are selling the idea that the key to reversing this trend lies in imitating the worship style and the theological leanings of evangelical mega-churches.  However, I’m not convinced.

Here’s why: I heard about an Episcopal church in Colorado.  This was a small, traditional parish.  Their numbers were dwindling.  Almost all the members left in the pews were grandparents or great grandparents.  There was nothing about this parish that fit the popular model for church growth.  Closure seemed inevitable.

Several of these aging church members felt led to start a youth group.  They were praying for an opportunity to start one.  But even their priest was telling them not to hold their breath over it.  Their big opportunity came one day when that same priest was sitting in a local coffee shop.  He was wearing a clerical collar, which clearly identified him with his profession.

The priest looked up and suddenly, there was a teenager was standing in front of him.  This rough-looking young man was clad in leather and had piercings in every conceivable orifice.  “Hey.”  He said, “Are you one of those ministers who can do funerals without the body there?”  After taking a second to compose himself, the priest asked the teenager to sit down and talk.  As it turns out, he had a friend who had recently died of a drug overdose.  His family lived out of state and had shipped the body back east for burial.  None of his local friends had a chance to grieve their loss.  The priest said yes, their church could certainly have a memorial service for this young man.

The members of the church wanted to get involved too, but they were at a loss as to how to do it.  They had nothing in common with this group of hard-edged, punk rock teenagers.  When they prayed for a youth group, they were thinking of a cadre of nicely-dressed, well-behaved high school students who attended Bible studies and held bake sales.  What were they supposed to do with this motley crew?

After giving it some thought, they could think of only one natural way to relate to these youth: they were all grandparents.  Why not act like it?  On the day of the memorial service, they made their fellowship hall as warm and cozy as possible.  They made tea and hot chocolate.  They set out fresh-baked cookies on hand-crocheted doilies.  And when the youth arrived, everyone agreed to pretend they were their own grandkids.

Most of the youth stuck around for the reception.  Amid a sea of black leather and glinting lip rings, one could see an entire rainbow of artificial hair colors.  The event was such a success, they decided to invite the teenagers back at the same time next week.  To their surprise, most of them came back!  Week after week, the most unlikely relationships formed between these folks in their eighties and this scary-looking group of punk-rock teenagers.  They got the youth group they had been praying for, but it looked nothing like they expected!  Moreover, it bore no resemblance to the trendy programs that are supposed to attract youth to a congregation.

This kind of thing has happened before in Christian history.  In today’s gospel reading, we read about Jesus’ unconventional model for church growth in the most unlikely places.  It happened among a group of Samaritans.

This was the last place where Jesus’ disciples expected to find a warm welcome.  Samaritans and Jews shared common ethnic and religious roots, but the Samaritans were regarded as heretics and half-breeds.  No self-respecting Jew would be caught dead with a Samaritan in public.  Some Jews traveling from Galilee to Judea would go almost a hundred miles out of their way in order to avoid Samaritan territory.  It was bad enough that Jesus had decided to go through Samaria instead.  Did he have to talk to them as well?

As it turns out, these Samaritans gave this Jewish rabbi a warmer welcome than any synagogue.  Even in Jesus’ own hometown, they had tried to throw him off a cliff!  But these half-breed heretics had opened their doors and welcomed Jesus and the disciples with open arms.  When the members of the village heard Jesus speak, they all believed in him.  A church sprang up overnight in this Samaritan village.

What’s even more surprising is that the catalyst for this explosive church growth was not the local mayor or clergyperson, but the village pariah.  It was almost unthinkable that Jesus would even talk to her in the first place.  First of all, she was a Samaritan.  We already talked about the inborn hostility there.  Second, she was a woman.  Nice Jewish boys didn’t talk to women in public (not even their own wives).  Finally, she was even outcast from her own people.  The text tells us that she met Jesus by the well at noon.  In that world without air conditioning, it was ridiculous to go to a well at noon, when the sun was beating down.  Most people would go at sunrise or sunset, when the weather was cooler.  The village well is where people would gather to chat and gossip.  The only reason to go to the well at noon was if you didn’t want to bump into anyone else.

Later in the story, we learn a little more about this person.  We find out that she’d been married five times and was currently living with a man outside of wedlock. Even today, two millennia later, most people who read this story assume that she was a serial divorcee who hopped from relationship to relationship.  But here’s an important detail about ancient Semitic culture: women were not allowed to initiate a divorce.  A husband could divorce his wife for any reason (even if she burned his supper) but a wife had no rights.  She may have been abused and discarded by man after man until she landed in her current situation, where the man she was with didn’t even have the decency to make the relationship legitimate.  We don’t even know that this woman was divorced at all.  In a country with such a low life-expectancy, it’s entirely possible that she was simply widowed five times over.  It seems that she could have landed in her situation through no fault of her own.  Nevertheless, she was still considered “damaged goods” by her neighbors.  Her story would provide ample fuel for the local gossip engine.

Yet, in spite of all these barriers, Jesus chooses this woman to be the agent of transformation in her village.  He engages her in theological conversation.  He effectively ordains her as an evangelist to the village.  Through her, the entire village comes to faith in Christ and opens their arms in welcome to this band of strangers.  Jesus’ model for church growth makes use of the most unlikely people in the most unlikely places.  But, apparently, it works.

What did the disciples think of all this while it was happening?  Well, we read in the text that they were “astonished” at Jesus’ incessant boundary pushing.  It was bad enough that they had to go through Samaria at all, but then Jesus starts talking with this woman, and then they end up spending two days there: eating and sleeping with these untouchable, half-bred heretics!  If their old rabbis ever heard about this, they’d all be kicked out of the synagogue for sure!

Jesus interrupts their astonishment with an invitation.  He tells them it’s time to let go of their expectations and their pre-conceived notions about other people.  Jesus says, “Look around you.  You think the harvest is still a few months off, but I’m telling you that the time for the harvest is now!  So, get out your sickle!”  Jesus tells them it’s time for them to open their eyes and see what God is doing around them (even in this least-expected place).  He wants them to “enter into the labor”, to be part of what they see God doing here and now.  For Jesus, this is the key to effective church growth, not a bunch of fancy programs.  Jesus gets it.  The Samaritans got it.  The disciples were starting to get it.  The Episcopal church in Colorado got it.  What about us?

In spite of what popular sources say, I’m not ready to pronounce our church dead yet.  I think God still has a harvest for us here in Boonville.  It won’t look like the “good old days” all over again.  1955 has come and gone.  Likewise, it won’t look like these evangelical mega-churches.  That’s not who we are as a church or a community (besides, we don’t have the parking space).  It will involve letting go of our old expectations and pre-conceived notions.  The good news is that this is already happening.  You’re already doing it.  When you started your search for a new pastor over a year ago, who would have thought that you would be interested in calling an Episcopal priest with a pony tail?  But here we are!

What other “astonishing” surprises does God have in store for us?  Where is the harvest happening here and now in Boonville?  That’s the question we have to ask ourselves as a church.  I have a few of my own ideas about how we might answer that question.  I see this church as a haven for people who, for whatever reason, have been made to feel unwelcome at other churches in the North Country.

I’m thinking of people like intelligent skeptics who are interested in faith, but have a lot of honest questions about it.  Too many churches out there tell people to “shut up” and “get in line” with traditional doctrine.  I see this church as a place where people can ask their honest questions without fear of rejection.  Maybe we won’t even know the answers, but we can ask those questions together.

Likewise, I also see our church as the kind of place where people who are gay or lesbian can find a welcoming church home.  Too often, people in our society face exile from their churches, their families, and their homes when they “come out of the closet” (which means being honest and open about their attraction to people of the same gender).  Among youth, it’s one of the top causes of suicide and homelessness.  I believe that our church can be a place in the North Country where that doesn’t need to happen.

I envision this church as a haven where people can come, with all their doubts and their differences, and be welcomed as one of “us” rather than one of “them”.  I see this church as a place where people can come looking for belonging, and through that, find themselves believing.  This is the gospel harvest that Jesus has prepared for us.  Are we ready to “look around us” and “enter into the labor” of this harvest?  I think so.